Question, Hopefully Help

**jtw61194** · August 30th, 2008, 11:16 PM

I really don't understand why you would want to pose that kind of question to a qualified educator. I cannot speak to the qualifications of substitute teachers in Wise County, but in Charlotte County, they are expected to teach the lessons that are left by the teachers. A substitute in my P.E. class will be expected to walk 1/4 mile to and from the P.E. fields 3 to 4 times a day because that's where the class is. My school system has some very good substitutes and they understand that the easiest way to make their money is to provide the best structure and instruction that they can. Substitutes are not allowed to sit around and do crossword puzzles. They must be able to provide lessons in the absence of teachers. There is a pretty stringent screening policy in my county. I hope this clarifies my point.

**plantsman** · August 30th, 2008, 11:20 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 82abn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really don't understand why you would want to pose that kind of question to a qualified educator. I cannot speak to the qualifications of substitute teachers in Wise County, but in Charlotte County, they are expected to teach the lessons that are left by the teachers. A substitute in my P.E. class will be expected to walk 1/4 mile to and from the P.E. fields 3 to 4 times a day because that's where the class is. My school system has some very good substitutes and they understand that the easiest way to make their money is to provide the best structure and instruction that they can. Substitutes are not allowed to sit around and do crossword puzzles. They must be able to provide lessons in the absence of teachers. There is a pretty stringent screening policy in my county. I hope this clarifies my point. </div></div>

Glad that works in your world, but it doesn't apply here. Just getting a sub is an accomplishment, much less a competent one.

**jtw61194** · August 30th, 2008, 11:23 PM

Sorry to hear that. We have a retired SF MSG who is filling in as a computer teacher while the rgular teacher nurses her husband after cancer treatments. He has a degree and several others have some sort of post-secondary education.

**USA Ranger** · August 30th, 2008, 11:26 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 82abn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry to hear that. We have a retired SF MSG who is filling in as a computer teacher while the rgular teacher nurses her husband after cancer treatments. He has a degree and several others have some sort of post-secondary education. </div></div>

That is great that your subs are that qualified. We have smart subs dont get me wrong, but it is justt hard sometimes that a school can find people that qualified that will work for 70.00 a day. If that is true why are they not teaching somewhere? Seems like some are overqualified at your school, which is good for the student's.

**jtw61194** · August 30th, 2008, 11:35 PM

Having a degree and being a teacher are two different monsters, as I'm sure you know. This guy is one of my buds and he is a former cop (also) and his degree is Criminal Justice. A lot of the other ones are graduates from the community college or college students back in town on a break. Not all fit this category, but quite a few do. Even those that don't understand that their life will be a lot easier if they do more "teacher work." There have been subs in my county who have been blackballed because they don't do sh## when stuff is left for them.

**USA Ranger** · August 30th, 2008, 11:43 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 82abn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Having a degree and being a teacher are two different monsters, as I'm sure you know. This guy is one of my buds and he is a former cop (also) and his degree is Criminal Justice. A lot of the other ones are graduates from the community college or college students back in town on a break. Not all fit this category, but quite a few do. Even those that don't understand that their life will be a lot easier if they do more "teacher work." There have been subs in my county who have been blackballed because they don't do sh## when stuff is left for them. </div></div>

We have sub's like that as well, that do not do anything and they do not get called a lot either. Usually the teacher will pick their sub out, some teachers have favorites because they do a good job. There is a difference between teaching and having a degree, you are right.Let me give you an example we have subs that might excell in the English department and are able to conduct a class in it, on the other hand they may be lost in Math class. I know I myself would have a hard time just going into a class not knowing what the class is covering and be able to teach it to them and I have been in education for 11 years. What I am trying to say is we have good subs, some of them are able to conduct classes here just like they do at your school, but it is not asked of them.Some do and some do not.

**jtw61194** · August 30th, 2008, 11:47 PM

Yes, you are right. We even have subs that do strictly P.E. classes due to the activity. Having good community support helps with how many quality substitutes are available. We are lucky.

**USA Ranger** · August 30th, 2008, 11:21 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 82abn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really don't understand why you would want to pose that kind of question to a qualified educator. I cannot speak to the qualifications of substitute teachers in Wise County, but in Charlotte County, they are expected to teach the lessons that are left by the teachers. A substitute in my P.E. class will be expected to walk 1/4 mile to and from the P.E. fields 3 to 4 times a day because that's where the class is. My school system has some very good substitutes and they understand that the easiest way to make their money is to provide the best structure and instruction that they can. Substitutes are not allowed to sit around and do crossword puzzles. They must be able to provide lessons in the absence of teachers. There is a pretty stringent screening policy in my county. I hope this clarifies my point. </div></div>

I do not mean any disrespect when I ask you questions. We have good subs as well, I am just telling you what is expected of them. How many subs are going to be able to come into a Chemistry class and begin teaching it?